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    Loved it mate apart from a bit of a chill around the feet and butt. I think Mark is going to do a thread on here about it I will send him the pics I took so he can post them or I can do one see what he thinks about it
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    To anyone who has or is contemplating buying a hammock and hasn't slept in one before, you must put a layer of insulation either in or around the hammock. Your sleeping bag compresses when you lie on it and it loses its insulating properties.

    The simplest way is to use a closed cell foam roll mat either inside the hammock or between the layers. Other options are the under blanket (my preferred option) or the cocoon, which is Ashley's choice. Others have suggested a car windscreen heat reflector which is supposed to be effective. I can also imagine that radiator heat reflective insulation could be good (it's like silver foil coated bubble wrap).

    Anyway, the bottom line is, if you don't insulate underneath yourself in a hammock you will have a cold miserable night's sleep, won't you Ben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    To anyone who has or is contemplating buying a hammock and hasn't slept in one before, you must put a layer of insulation either in or around the hammock. Your sleeping bag compresses when you lie on it and it loses its insulating properties.

    The simplest way is to use a closed cell foam roll mat either inside the hammock or between the layers. Other options are the under blanket (my preferred option) or the cocoon, which is Ashley's choice. Others have suggested a car windscreen heat reflector which is supposed to be effective. I can also imagine that radiator heat reflective insulation could be good (it's like silver foil coated bubble wrap).

    Anyway, the bottom line is, if you don't insulate underneath yourself in a hammock you will have a cold miserable night's sleep, won't you Ben?

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    Hi Mate I think I slept ok as I looked and the fire still had some decent embers next time I looked there where none But yip any advice is happily accepted here it took ages for my toes to finally get feeling again It brought back memeories of having to stand on cocnrete when doing gaurd duty
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    I presume with the travel hammock you can't use the snugpak cocoon? Unless you turn the hammock over and don't use the mosi net?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    I presume with the travel hammock you can't use the snugpak cocoon? Unless you turn the hammock over and don't use the mosi net?
    That would be correct Paul. However, you could think of the cocoon as a very large mosi net without the net bit.

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    Ah yea, I like that idea!

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    i brought my 2010 DD travel hammock out last week when i got it,had a 6mm insulation mat in between the layers and a light 2 season sleeping bag,the hammock itself is great.


    i slept in it suspended for about 4 hours and my kneck started to hurt so i dropped it down to the bivi set up(at 4am) only took 20 mins to move it all,

    the only negatives i noticed for myself were that if i had a small blow up pillow my neck would have been fine i think and when i dropped it into bivi set up i rolled off the insulation mat and woke up freezin
    the mats only 500mm wide and the bivi set up is 1400mm wide so a wider insulation mat or better insulation prep with leaves or such under where the bivi will be set up would be a good idea
    the zips on both sides of the mozi net on this model are really handy for centering yourself on the insulation mat when suspended in the hammock,it must have been a nightmare when they only had a zip on one side and i did notice that only 2 of the 3 velcro strips inbetween the layers lined up when the hammock was up,this may be down to more stretch on one side but didnt get to camp till late that evenin so didnt have time to mess about with the hammock to see if it would catch but will on my next outing over the next week

    they could also do with putting something on the corners of the bivi set up to anchor the corners off for when your pinnin it down,its no problem staking the cord that comes with it its that when you stake down the cord the ends of the bivi bag can still slide and when you tighten up the mozi net with the bungi cord supplied off a ridge line the corners of the bivi move in towards the middle,as i said this was done at 4am after waking up with a serious neck pain so on my next outing i'll see if i can get all 4 corners to stay in place

    2 hollow climbing carabiners,a 10mm 4 season roll mat(wide as possible) or an under blanket(if cash allows) and a 3x3m tarp will be my next upgrades before the start of October
    any of you used the travel hammock in the bivi set up ?

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    Hi ken, I had a similar problem first time I slept in a hammock. Did you have the hammock strung taut or was there some slack? That seemed to be the key for me, once I loosened it off so there was some sag, I could sleep with my head higher than my body. Was very comfortabe then. Have a look at the setup picture from whoopieslings.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    Hi ken, I had a similar problem first time I slept in a hammock. Did you have the hammock strung taut or was there some slack? That seemed to be the key for me, once I loosened it off so there was some sag, I could sleep with my head higher than my body. Was very comfortabe then. Have a look at the setup picture from whoopieslings.com
    ya i had it pretty taught paul,i slept on my side that time too,i got a blow up camping pillow today so i'll give that a go on my next outing and i'll see what slackening the hammock feels like for me
    thanks for the heads up and the link,ken

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    Eureka! get length of wire, flexible enough to bend with your hands, but stiff enough to hold. push a cork aonto each end of the wire. shape it into an arc and when you get into the hammock, put either end of the wire with the cork at either side of the hammock, holding up the cocoon bit. that's probably a lot easier to write than do actually....ok scrap that idea. why not sew some webbing loops onto the outside and do the same as you would with the mozzy net on the travel and frontline hammocks.
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