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    Which Survival Shelter would you use?

    So...

    Here is the scenario...

    I know it's not likely to happen in England, but...

    You're in a climate such as that of England, in winter like this one... So you've got none of the poisonous insects etc to worry about, no bears and all those wonderful things...

    What Shelter would you construct if you only had a knife? Lets say, there's a lot of wooded areas, (the option of walking to a house isn't an option hahaha)....
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    It so depends on whats available Kieran but its almost defo a debris shelter, always better if you can find a cave though, lol. Ken
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    A frame with raised bed, one way in and thatched with bracken, spruce bows and sphagnum moss. But there's a few problems.
    1: I'm a bushcrafter, I usually carry more kit than just a knife. Anything important is on my person and to snap my belt would require such a force I'd probably be in need of serious medical attention.
    2: I live in Scotland getting stuck, usually means getting very cold and wet. If you need a shelter urgently you probably are bordering on hypothermia already and should have had a fire kit. Mylar blanket at minimum.

    I could build that with a knife, but if I'm in a survival situation, that means I can't walk out. People tend to die of exposure due to shock and hypothermia is likely to set in. The likely hood is if you say where your going and what time you'll return, someone is already looking for you. The trick is to make yourself as obvious as you can. I always carry a hi-viz in orange just incase it all goes Pete Tong, as if I can't walk to a house, pub, or a bothy, I'm needing air lifted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midge_Fodder View Post
    A frame with raised bed, one way in and thatched with bracken, spruce bows and sphagnum moss. But there's a few problems.
    1: I'm a bushcrafter, I usually carry more kit than just a knife. Anything important is on my person and to snap my belt would require such a force I'd probably be in need of serious medical attention.
    2: I live in Scotland getting stuck, usually means getting very cold and wet. If you need a shelter urgently you probably are bordering on hypothermia already and should have had a fire kit. Mylar blanket at minimum.

    I could build that with a knife, but if I'm in a survival situation, that means I can't walk out. People tend to die of exposure due to shock and hypothermia is likely to set in. The likely hood is if you say where your going and what time you'll return, someone is already looking for you. The trick is to make yourself as obvious as you can. I always carry a hi-viz in orange just incase it all goes Pete Tong, as if I can't walk to a house, pub, or a bothy, I'm needing air lifted.
    Sounds good, I have always wanted to visit Scotland, I hear it's a lot like some of the area's in New Zealand.

    I think I would go for a debris shelter, seems fairly straight forward.. Plus, if I had a foil blanket, which is often in my rucksack, I think that would make for a fairly OK nights sleep if the shelter is made properly.
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    You can do an a frame from debris. And the blanket could be used to improve the shelter if your dry. And yes it is, it's why a lot of scots emigrated there. Scots had a tendency to go to places a bit like home hence Dunedin (gaelic for Edinburgh). Daft question though, how's the deer cull going on over there. I understand they are possibly the worst invasive species you could ever have had.
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    In all honesty, I have no idea, they don't really talk much about it...
    I don't think much is happening where that's concerned... But, I could be wrong. I haven't lived here long though, still finding my feet
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    I loved it when I went over to NZ, it's just a really nice place IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midge_Fodder View Post
    I loved it when I went over to NZ, it's just a really nice place IMO
    Sure is! I'd rather be here than Australia, where most English want too go.

    What does IMO mean?
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    In my opinion lol. I have considered 3 places to emigrate, NZ, Canada or anywhere in Scandinavia. It would all depend on whether I'd 1. Get work and 2. Get accepted for citizenship.
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    being a citizen isn't always needed, a resident can do just as much.. Kiwi passports are among the most expensive in the world (far more than the UK)

    My dad is going through the residency stage now, costs a lot! Everything in total has cost us not far from £60,000
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