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  1. 07-08-2013, 10:18 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    Or as Ray Mears saw in Siberia with the Evenk peoples, a rudimentary form of SUP that has been in use for generations. (starts approx 3mins in)



    These people survive using bushcraft skills daily.

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    Did I just see Uncle Ray use a MATCH....good on him, too many peeps out in bushland frown when you dont use an F&S. Back on topic, theres a latin phrase that pops to mind ( di gustibus non est disputandem ) and it is very true. I prefer a canadien canoe to what is essetially a raft, as do I prefer a catarmaran to a monohull, to me its about stability. And a stable platform to work from ( in my eyes ) (and once again I quote :- di gustibus non est disputandem ) is always a better option unless you are just seeking thrills. And it roughly translates as... In matters of taste, there are no disputes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
    Did I just see Uncle Ray use a MATCH....
    WITCHCRAFT!!!! BURN HIM!! BURN THE HERETIC!!!

    I'm quite proud to use matches, they were invented by a local lad up the road!
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    In all seriousness though, and getting back on topic, I think you hit the nail right on the head there with that rather apt piece of Latin. I've sailed cats and multihulls and they're superbfor stability and speed but I still prefer a monohull for its manoeuvreability and nimble handling, and probably also just personal taste!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beermaker View Post
    In all seriousness though, and getting back on topic, I think you hit the nail right on the head there with that rather apt piece of Latin. I've sailed cats and multihulls and they're superbfor stability and speed but I still prefer a monohull for its manoeuvreability and nimble handling, and probably also just personal taste!
    Quite right ! when you sail in a monohull you have to decide which wall is the floor, pmsl just kidding, I choose a cat especially for the reason of space, very important on a cruiser and you can cover mostly twice the distance in a day, so on a long passage say to the Med you get there a lot quicker. Plus theres a lot of deck for fishing, ATB bro, Ken
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    Quote Originally Posted by beermaker View Post
    WITCHCRAFT!!!! BURN HIM!! BURN THE HERETIC!!!

    I'm quite proud to use matches, they were invented by a local lad up the road!
    End of the day you use other means if you have no lighter/match etc. Sure practice primative methods but evolution is here to stay, Ime certain my ancestors of circa 17th century would agree, Ken
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    I had a go on Ross Hobsons ocean going cat Ideal Stelrad once, an amazing craft! A fair point about picking which part of the hull is the floor - I love it when you get the boat heeling over!

    As for using matches, I always carry them, as well as a lighter, but I always try to use a fire steel first because I'm stubborn! It's always nice to know the "modern" methods are there as back up though! No point being the proudest bushcrafter in the graveyard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beermaker View Post
    I had a go on Ross Hobsons ocean going cat Ideal Stelrad once, an amazing craft! A fair point about picking which part of the hull is the floor - I love it when you get the boat heeling over!

    As for using matches, I always carry them, as well as a lighter, but I always try to use a fire steel first because I'm stubborn! It's always nice to know the "modern" methods are there as back up though! No point being the proudest bushcrafter in the graveyard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by susannewilliams View Post
    What is very interesting is to have a look at the history of standing up boards, stand up canoeing and poling rafts --> both of which can be seen as precursors to the modern SUP and can be found all over the world amongst many different indigenous peoples..

    Seminole Indians
    http://e-humanity.org/artifact.php?artifact_id=52755



    The Mokoro of the Okawango Delta
    http://www.superstock.com/stock-phot...ges/1848-49928
    http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1850-4370





    Historical American - 1800s
    http://paddlemaking.blogspot.de/2013...anoe-race.html
    http://www.kankakeevalleyhistoricals...er_sm-edge.jpg





    Even on the Congo
    http://www.wwnorton.com/college/engl...s/impoling.htm

    Hasake is a board-boat hybrid of the Stand-up Paddle (SUP) Board family, with alleged Israeli and Arabic roots, possibly
    dating back to as far as the 8th century A.D
    http://supconnect.mylocallineup.com/...sup-board.html

    History in Ancient Rome, Polynesia, Peru
    [url]http://www.examiner.com/article/the-history-of-stand-up-paddle-boarding-dates-back-to-at-least-7000-bc[/url
    Got to say the girl does her research, don't mess with the girl. Far to inter web usage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realearner View Post
    Got to say the girl does her research, don't mess with the girl. Far to inter web usage
    Ah it's just a topic I'm really fascinated by...
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  10. 07-08-2013, 10:20 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by susannewilliams View Post
    Looking at some of your previous posts however, you do seem to be an unassailable authority on any topic that you care to make assertions about, so best not to press the point I guess.
    46 years of experience camping etc. in the Canadian wilderness makes me an expert on that. An authority, yes. Unassailable, no.
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