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    Japanese Waterstone 1000/6000 Grit + Nagura Stone

    I am thinking of buying a waterstone as listed in the title. Any advice plz guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosseveritt View Post
    I am thinking of buying a waterstone as listed in the title. Any advice plz guys?
    I have done some research and asked the Guru in this on YT, Virtovice, a japanese hunter and knife collector...

    here is his answer:

    Hello Rune,
    Naniwa 1000/3000 stone is a fairly good stone, but not a great stone. I have Naniwa 3000 stone myself and I know its character very well. It's a soft stone and doesn't cut fast. You need patience to finish the edge with it. I also have King 1000 stone and it is a slow cutter too. 1000 and 3000 combination is very good for outdoor knife sharpening. You can move the bevel flat on the 1000 surface at first. And at last you raise the angle a bit and sharpen the very edge. And then you go to the 3000 side to finish the edge. As I said the Naniwa 3000 stone is on soft side and you can shave its surface with your edge. Then you do it a bit more gently. And finally you will need leather stropping with Bark River white compound to make the edge like a razor.
    I now use Naniwa Chosera stones. They are hard stones and cut extremely fast. So I don't need patience at all. I use 400, 800, 2000 stones which are for fast sharpening. The 400 is for initial edge angle shallowing and chip restoration. They are expensive but deserve the investment.

    http://www.fine-tools.com/naniwa-chosera.html

    And here is one of his sharpening videos:



    This said, Virtovice, likes the convex grind, and is a hunter, not a bushcrafter, according to himself :-)
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    Not sure where the Naniwa brand came into the OP's question......

    I have a bunch of Japanese waterstones, a few Kings and a couple of Bester stones, all are good. I have 700x, 1000x, 3000x and 8000x I recall, been a while since I used but they are pretty good stones.

    Give this guide a read, is handy info:

    http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...86&cat=1,43072

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post
    Not sure where the Naniwa brand came into the OP's question......
    It's only mentioned because I asked Virtuvice abaout that particluar brand, as Brisa has a fairly reasonable price on them, so I asked him for an opinion. It is his answer I am quoting.
    naniwa are makers of japanese water stone....

    But what is interesting is the advice on grits he comes with.
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    Thanks to both of you for your information and advice. Much appreciated.

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    Ah, gotcha!

    Want the cat's meow on Jap water stones and usage? Murray Carter videos, piles of demonstrated info, and awesome tips, such as to finish your knife edge to a scary sharp edge by stropping on simple newpaper, is said to be approximately 20,000-30,000 grit (it works, I just use the newspaper tightly rolled up!!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5stV_1kID-U

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    [QUOTE=CanadianMike;48104]Ah, gotcha!

    Want the cat's meow on Jap water stones and usage? Murray Carter videos, piles of demonstrated info, and awesome tips, such as to finish your knife edge to a scary sharp edge by stropping on simple newpaper, is said to be approximately 20,000-30,000 grit (it works, I just use the newspaper tightly rolled up!!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5stV_1kID-U[/QUOTE

    Thanks for that.

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    There is a great write up on Sharpining stones in Bushcraft and survival mag just now Ross.
    Get a copy and have a read That might give ye a better idea of what you are looking for.

    Hope thats a help mate

    Cheers
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    [QUOTE=rosseveritt;48106]
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post
    Ah, gotcha!

    Want the cat's meow on Jap water stones and usage? Murray Carter videos, piles of demonstrated info, and awesome tips, such as to finish your knife edge to a scary sharp edge by stropping on simple newpaper, is said to be approximately 20,000-30,000 grit (it works, I just use the newspaper tightly rolled up!!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5stV_1kID-U[/QUOTE

    Thanks for that.
    No problem, hope it helps you. Another tip am sure you are familiar with is honing the edge on a car window, as per this!


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    [QUOTE=CanadianMike;48110]
    Quote Originally Posted by rosseveritt View Post

    No problem, hope it helps you. Another tip am sure you are familiar with is honing the edge on a car window, as per this!

    Yeah, I have been told that by Ash, thx again.

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