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Aij29
09-01-2015, 08:04 AM
Hi

Has anyone used a fishing shelter instead of a tent for ground dwelling?

I`ve seen some half round ones with an open front so you could benefit from a camp fire,

Cheers
Adrian

Ehecatl
09-01-2015, 09:04 AM
Hi Adrian.

Check out the link below. It shows different tarp configurations some of which are similar the open front tent. For those with a tarp who do not have a fishing shelter it's a practical alternative.

http://www.naturalbushcraft.co.uk/shelter/tarpology-setting-up-your-tarp-in-different-configurations.html

Cheers,

M@

Johnnyboy1971
09-01-2015, 09:53 AM
Seen it done but wouldn't risk a fire near them.

Ehecatl
09-01-2015, 10:22 AM
I'm thinking a honey stove / small fire box type of affair. Anything bigger and you risk pin hole burns in all of your kit from any stray sparks :shocked:

cave dweller
09-01-2015, 12:53 PM
I quite often use a fishing bivvy or even a day shelter for overnighters. Very quick to put up, and comfy enough. A bit heavy though. Big fishing brollies are also quite useful for short trips in reasonable weather where you don't need a full tent. Still heavy though :D

My bivvy has a 'half groundsheet' - so the half near the door has no floor. It also has 'doors' that can be pulled a long way back, so using a stove is pretty safe.

Some of the carp fishing rigs I've seen are downright luxurious, but I wouldn't want to carry them!

Aij29
09-01-2015, 03:50 PM
I quite often use a fishing bivvy or even a day shelter for overnighters. Very quick to put up, and comfy enough. A bit heavy though. Big fishing brollies are also quite useful for short trips in reasonable weather where you don't need a full tent. Still heavy though :D

My bivvy has a 'half groundsheet' - so the half near the door has no floor. It also has 'doors' that can be pulled a long way back, so using a stove is pretty safe.

Some of the carp fishing rigs I've seen are downright luxurious, but I wouldn't want to carry them!

Hi

Thanks that's sounds ideal,
Could I ask what bivvy and day shelter you use?

Cheers
Adrian

Johnnyboy1971
09-01-2015, 04:10 PM
The groundsheet from my fishing bivvy weighs almost 5kilo.

Aij29
09-01-2015, 04:21 PM
The groundsheet from my fishing bivvy weighs almost 5kilo.

Hi
Blimey thats heavy!!

I was thinking more like a beach tent kind of thing i think they are known as day shelters (loads lighter but quite flimsy)

Adrian

Johnnyboy1971
09-01-2015, 04:34 PM
Yeah I have the heavy ground sheet for the Nash titan.

cave dweller
10-01-2015, 08:59 AM
Could I ask what bivvy and day shelter you use?

Cheers
Adrian

My bivvy is a 2 man TF gear from fishtec, but I don't think the one they sell now is the same as mine - it's four years old. The day shelter is (I think) a Wychwood Solace.

Johnnyboy1971
10-01-2015, 09:05 AM
The Wychwood Sloace is a nice little shelter and can be set low if needed.

Aij29
10-01-2015, 10:43 AM
Thanks Guys

I`ve seen the Solace and it looks good,

Is it huge and heavy when packed down? (light enough to hike with?)

Cheers
Adrian

-Tim-
10-01-2015, 11:14 AM
Tarp all the way for me,I have a True North (linky here) (http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/tarps-and-bivy-bags/WE113.html) a very well thought out versatile and quality piece of equipment.
As for using it with a fire....why not I have for years and suffered only one hole (not even sure where that one came from, easily mended with seam sealer. I have used it as a hammock tarp, tent, porch for a tent and a group/cook shelter. And it weighs in at 1.8kg.

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Hope this helps

Cheers
Tim

Aij29
10-01-2015, 12:41 PM
Hi Tim

I like the tarp idea but most of my camping/bushcraft is done on rural campsites so not sure
how they would take to a tarp set-up?

Thanks
Adrian

saxonaxe
10-01-2015, 05:02 PM
I think you should be ok Adrian, most campsite owners are just happy to collect their fee, probably charge you as for a single small tent. Once they realise you don't eat small children on toast for breakfast, you'll be welcome..;)

-Tim-
10-01-2015, 05:32 PM
Or if you have a small tent to sleep in, the tarp can be your living area....(it's what we do:) )

Cheers
Tim

robmac
19-01-2015, 03:42 PM
This gets pretty good reviews, and is dirt cheap;

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/hardwear-day-shelter-p182258

xWillo
10-02-2015, 01:53 PM
I use a DD Tarp 3x3m picked it up for around £35-£40. Really Lightweight, and 100% waterproof. Can get holes in if not careful with fire placement however.
But for cost I think it is a really good buy. http://www.ddhammocks.com/products/tarps

Midge_Fodder
24-02-2015, 01:58 PM
I forgo the fishing bivvy and use a Tarp when fishing. I have plenty of trees where I fish so it works out for me.

greg.g
08-03-2015, 06:29 PM
You can pick up the dd 3x3 tarp for £30 here...

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/tarps-and-bivy-bags/WE104.html

Greg

Tigger004
09-03-2015, 10:03 AM
Hi

I was thinking more like a beach tent kind of thing i think they are known as day shelters (loads lighter but quite flimsy)

Adrian

As far as I know most light weight beach shelters are not rain proof ( good for UV though )

Magicdave
20-03-2015, 07:06 PM
Big fishing brollies are also quite useful for short trips in reasonable weather where you don't need a full tent.

I used used to use a "Birdiepal" umbrella http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/accessories-c10/trekking-umbrellas-c369/birdiepal-outdoor-trekking-umbrella-p3299 as a shelter. It's not big at all at 1m diameter. I had the art of setting up my sleeping/bivvy bag and getting undressed while holding it down to a tee. Then climbing in and pegging it down over my head with guy lines.

In good weather it was great, it cut all the weight of carrying rain gear, but in the rain it was only any good for long distance walking where night time basically was just for sleeping.

I changed to the tarp route, but before I did I was considering one of these http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/search/sun-dial the smaller one. But I couldn't find much online about how sturdy they are, and the name implies that they may not be good in prolonged rain, if you can find anything abut them that I couldn't at the time, it may be a thought.

Magicdave
20-03-2015, 07:24 PM
Of course, getting undressed under a small umbrella might get you barred from the campsites.

midas
20-03-2015, 10:16 PM
Of course, getting undressed under a small umbrella might get you barred from the campsites.
Would think if you were on a camp site.you could use the showers.etc.n if out in the wild ??sure the birds n bees wouldn't care.lol.

Magicdave
20-03-2015, 10:25 PM
Would think if you were on a camp site.you could use the showers.etc

Damn, I should have thought of that.


if out in the wild ??sure the birds n bees wouldn't care.

Now your talking, that's my use.