"Lofty" Wiseman on Bear Grylls and Ray Mears, quite funny!!!

[CanadianMike]

Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4JP-JIYH6Q

[Terry]

A honest opinion and well presented, Love to hear more from him.

[AdrianRose]

Amusing but I'm not sure about the "Ray Mears is the wrong shape for survival" comment.

Add.

[Humakt]

Why can't they just play like good little boys and girls and stop bickering.

[andy202wr]

Just so funney still smiling. What he says is very true thoe. But they are all hero's in there own rite.

[ian c]

I like it and thought it was as funny as the people that were there.

[JEEP]

It seems like every survival/bushcraft guru has it out for every other performer on the scene.

It is a bit tiresome to experience really.

[jus_young]

It makes me cringe. The only thing anyone will acheive with comments like this is upsetting people that once had respect for them. Yes there can be a funny side to it but really, it makes a mockery of the subject. We expect it from politicians but these guys act as if there is a battle on for favouritism and ratings.

[paulthefish2009]

Well said jus_young, I got a lot of time for Lofty normaly but that was just a bit silly. I'm sure he just said what he did for effect. Paul

[jus_young]

What I do find a little amusing is that, by the look of the backdrop, this was filmed at the Bushcraft Show where Bushcraft and Survival Magazine are the main organisers I believe. This magazine has only recently started its relationship with Lofty where RM and BG have been involved and spending money on advertising for a while now. That was the Editor in the foreground and if I was him I would be a little nervous by all this.

By the way, I am a subscriber to the mag and have been for the last couple of years. Its a pretty good read and have just renewed my subscription for another two years, but imho some reviews have to be taken with a pinch of salt (my sceptisism here).

[comanighttrain]

I notice nobody has bad mouthed Mr Stroud.....

[Kernowek Scouser]

As I'm fairly 'Ray shaped' myself, if Lofty's opinion proved to be true, that would be me buggered :eek:

It would be easy to over analysis this clip, what Lofty said, the crowds reaction to it and the fact is was recorded and posted, but I won't as if it wasn't mildly
:guns:CONTROVERSIAL:war: it would never have made it on to YouTube in the first place and kick started this little discussion.

It's just a bit of fun.

[Basha72]

He's the grey man in all this, just gets on with the job makes no drama's about it, plus he's at the bushcraft show this year so I guess the last thing the event organiser would have wanted is any pr issues !!

I have no issues watching any of them on Tv and would happily sit around a fire talking !!

Dave

[Bastoss]

Seems all a bit silly to me. Why would anyone even ask the question? 5 minutes potential for learning wasted on bad mouthing. As a scout leader you never bad mouth another leader to the kids. Just not professional.
Lets all learn from eachother rather than assume our own ways are always right "because thats the way I've always done it".

[Silverback]

Seems all a bit silly to me. Why would anyone even ask the question? 5 minutes potential for learning wasted on bad mouthing. As a scout leader you never bad mouth another leader to the kids. Just not professional.
Lets all learn from eachother rather than assume our own ways are always right "because thats the way I've always done it".

T^

[shiftypowers76]

well done bear grylls for making scout leader, what another money making scheme to sell his products to the scout groups.

[Bastoss]

well done bear grylls for making scout leader what another money making scheme to sell his products to the scout groups.

Now try again with punctuation fella', it'll make sense then.

[shiftypowers76]

sorry,i, didnt,know,this,was,a,grammer,forum,also

[Martin]

Enough!! I can feel my finger hovering over the ban button. This behaviour is simply intolerable on the NaturalBushcraft forum. Take it somewhere else, it's not welcome here!

Martin

[Bastoss]

Apologies Martin.

[shiftypowers76]

sorry.i never meant it to offend

[Silverback]

Bear and Ray entertain in different ways to different folks, just like Survivorman Vs Man Woman Wild, and Dave vs Cody.

In my very humble opinion Ray is about native cultures and living on what the land can give & Ray seems to live very comfortably in the wild.......The other progs are about 'surviving' and only just in some cases - chalk vs cheese I know which Id rather eat ;)

[shiftypowers76]

ray mears for me,all the time,but les stroud is a good woodsman,hes done it for 20 years or more.look on youtube for solitude and snowshoes.les spends his honeymoon, a year long in the wild with his wife.

[Silverback]

ray mears for me,all the time,but les stroud is a good woodsman,hes done it for 20 years or more.look on youtube for solitude and snowshoes.les spends his honeymoon, a year long in the wild with his wife.

agreed

[Bastoss]

ray mears for me,all the time,but les stroud is a good woodsman,hes done it for 20 years or more.look on youtube for solitude and snowshoes.les spends his honeymoon, a year long in the wild with his wife.

If only my future wife would go for that! Boating in Scotland it is then!

[Hushwing]

Please guys - I'm a treehugging, bunny stroking, sheep sh..... sort of lentil eating hippy but I don't know if the rain coming on has made everyone a bit narky but that's two postings in the last 10 mins that I've noticed a wee bit of argybargy. debate is good and having strong views helps new ideas form and move on but this site has never really shown any of this before (unlike another forum I've seen recently where there seems a lot of it going on at the moment). NB UK has always debated ideas and informed but not with this sort of edge - group hug????? :guns: (got me at it now!)

[Kernowek Scouser]

Are you saying members here are happy to engage in a mass debate?

Pull the other one :D

[jus_young]

Please guys - I'm a treehugging, bunny stroking, sheep sh..... sort of lentil eating hippy but I don't know if the rain coming on has made everyone a bit narky but that's two postings in the last 10 mins that I've noticed a wee bit of argybargy. debate is good and having strong views helps new ideas form and move on but this site has never really shown any of this before (unlike another forum I've seen recently where there seems a lot of it going on at the moment). NB UK has always debated ideas and informed but not with this sort of edge - group hug????? :guns: (got me at it now!)

Martin has put things back in place, its all nice again :)

It happens from time to time as the written word does not easily convey humour and things can be taken out of context. A swift caning from the mods sorts things out.

[Bastoss]

doesn't the back of our wrists know it. All good fun really though. Now what were we saying about sheep? ;)

[Hushwing]

doesn't the back of our wrists know it. All good fun really though. Now what were we saying about sheep? ;)

I think we were talking about caning sheep - or is that the other specialist forum?!!!

[jus_young]

Don't know about sheep but its definately time for sleep. Got caught out watching that 'Snowshoes and Solitude' again. Captivating film that one.

[Hushwing]

Are you saying members here are happy to engage in a mass debate?

Pull the other one :D

the only other person (myself included) I've ever 'met' who has used the mass debate pun - brothers in (right) arms!