Any one got experience of the Carinthia Defence 1

[Phineas]

Hi all,

can any of you folk tell me what the Defence 1 is like?

I have read lots about the Defence 4 and seen one in a shop but there is very little info/opinion available on the Defence 1.

What I like the Def1 is the waterproof and windproof qualities of the fabric which means I wont need a bivi bag when used under a tarp. This means that I can have a sleeping bag that weighs just 1050g without the additional weight of a bivi bag. I'm into being a light as possible so that's important to me.

My main question is how warm is the Def1? Is the temp rating of +3*C accurate do you think.

Given that the Def4 seems to be considered a proper 4 season bag with 1000g of insulation, it seems likely to me that the Def1 with 550g of it should be a good 2 season bag.

Also, I can't picture in my mind how I would get on with the face hole instead the usual hood.

Is it possible/comfy to stick your head out with the zip not done right up when the weather is warm?

What do you reckon?

Thanks for your input.

[happybonzo]

I believe that HM Forces may be getting Carinthia in the future to replace Snugpak

[Phineas]

Do you mean the Def1 will be replacing the army jungle bag?

If so we may be able to get the Def1 as surplus at some point.

[happybonzo]

Not sure, you'll have to ask some one who is more current with the latest MOD kit

[Silverback]

Comfort and season ratings depend on the person too...a larger person will generally be warmer than a skinny one in the same bag as it takes longer to lose heat on a larger mass.

[Phineas]

Comfort and season ratings depend on the person too...a larger person will generally be warmer than a skinny one in the same bag as it takes longer to lose heat on a larger mass.

I understand that but I'm trying to gauge opinion before I decide whether to buy or not as it's not a cheap bag.

[Whistle]

CARINTHIA DEFENCE 1 ... ?!?!

Wondered what a complicated chess gambit was doing here !!!

Thought someone had started a campfire chess club hey !!!

Ha Ha Ha !!!

Sad news for Snugpak if they are replaced !!!

Cheers Whistle

[happybonzo]

Possibly this one - http://www.bcbin.com/products/produc...=Bivouac#CT997

but don't quote me

[Phineas]

CARINTHIA DEFENCE 1 ... ?!?!

Wondered what a complicated chess gambit was doing here !!!

Thought someone had started a campfire chess club hey !!!

Ha Ha Ha !!!

My Carinthia Defence 1 counters your Snugpak Jungle offensive. Check mate?

[Whistle]

My Carinthia Defence 1 counters your Snugpak Jungle offensive. Check mate?

Check check ... and out ... LOL !!!

ATB Whistle Ha ha ha