And there you have it Rune (FUN), and thats the main reason we go out and do what we do isnt it.Why beat yourself up cos you feel like your cheating or you cant manage to do friction. When matches came along my great,g,g, grandparents didnt say thats cheating, they most definately said "great Ime having me some of that". If I had to I can make a hearth, spindle and bow and 5 times out of 10 (at least) make fire, but I wont carry something 50 times heavier than matches and a lighter around with me . Ime lucky in as much that 'Shropshire' is full of Spruce or pine of one sort or another and can "always" get something to burn in all conditions. By the way Rune I do like your youtube vids all very interesting and easy to watch, some youtubers set your nerves on end. Have fun out there and I hope you get work soon, atvb Ken ....made this one with a click of a button,lol ps. the "burn down the forest with napalm" made me laugh.